Vice presidential

So the Vice Presidential debates happened last night.

I was expecting a little bit more from Ryan and less from Biden than actually happened. But I do believe that Ryan still carried the day.

Honestly with the way that Biden kept snorting and chuckling whenever Ryan was trying to talk made him sound like a rude Boor. Add to that the fact that Biden kept whining about Ryan getting “more time” to make his points when it turned out in the timing that Biden had a minute more than Ryan, well that made him sound childish.

Ryan on the other hand came across as a gentleman, well versed in the issues and ready to address them.

Biden did have a few points that I might have liked to have expanded on. On the other hand I think that Ryan was smart in not addressing what programs they would specifically cut funding for.

Think back what was the BIG, Specific proclamation that Obama made before being elected? “The day I am elected I will sign the paperwork to close Guantanamo Bay Prison!”

Here we are four years later and Gitmo is still doing business as usual. Sometimes the exigencies of politics would not allow it. In this issue it seems a case of a no win scenario. If Romney/Ryan make specific promises they will be totally castigated for not keeping their promises. By not saying specifics they are open to make the changes they need without breaking promises.

This is an important point. I think what this means is that we are facing people who are not liars. Talk about a novelty in politics. But whether they are trying to cover their bases or simply not reveal too much I feel they are in a no win anyway. Those people who are against Romney and Ryan to begin with are going to do whatever they can to make Romney and Ryan look bad.

I would caution those people though not to start throwing those stones. Obama was elected just on the vague thought that he would bring in “hope and change” you can’t get much more nonspecific than that.

Also I would like to see some back and forth. If the Obama/Biden ticket is going to make points about specificity or records being hidden or anything else than they need to be prepared to show the exact same regard for the Romney Ryan side.

I do totally expect that the liberals will come out crowing about how well their guy did… and they have reason to. Biden avoided a total melt down screw up, which is VERY rare for this man. But I do not count this one as a win for the liberal side.