I got into a discussion last election cycle with a certain family member. It all started on Facebook.
This person posted a meme saying that Democrats have always been better than republicans at creating jobs and improving the economy.
Specifically it made the claim that Obama (and Clinton) has done better than ANY of the last 6 or so republican presidents. but it started with the claim that ALL Democrats did better than Republicans.
I instantly jumped in and said that what was posted was a lie.
I Stated that Government does not make jobs. And that the economy has improved under Republicans, at least as much as if not more than it did under Democrats.
Then it got messy.
I specifically pointed at how during Reagan's administration alone the country saw improvement like never before.I pointed out how we came out of a HUGE recession from the 70's, eliminated the ongoing "gas Crisis" of the 60's and 70's and so on.
This family member whom I shall refer to from now on as Billy since that is a nice gender neutral name and I do not want anyone to be too offended, went on to ask for citations.
I provided those for Billy and then I went on to break things down for Billy.
Billy responded that the post was just meant to spark debate and not really change anyone's mind. I called Billy out on that point as well. Why post something that would cause a response such as mine if you did not intend for it to?
But at that Point Billy stated that Government DOES create jobs. Billy's job was "created" by the government.
A little Background, Billy works as a college teacher, and Billy is very Liberal. But let's move on.
I wanted to share with you the main crux of my argument. Mostly I was thinking that there may be many other people out there who are as misled or misguided as Billy so, without further ado... here is my response.
Government does not create jobs. It never has. It taxes businesses but true value comes from Businesses creating value. That creates worth and that enables jobs.
Government can make a situation where businesses WANT to open up and create jobs. But it has to do that through lower taxes, less red tape or easier access to needed raw materials. (usage of federal lands, easing of restrictions on importing or acquiring supplies).
This is not a statement that needs any kind of citation to prove. This is simple common sense.
However if you look at the links I have found so far they tend to prove my point.
(See links at bottom of page)
Most of my “original sources” for information are not online because I use more information sources than online. I do not trust traditional American media to present all the facts, so I look all over the place. Partly this is due to the fact that ALL the news outlets have thrown away their journalistic integrity.
All you have to do is watch the debates between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama and the “Independent Mediator’s” reactions to know that. Or for that matter the news that keeps coming out that they all refuse to admit too (it took MONTHS for any word about the NSA files the IRS harassment the Benghazi attacks, the Ebola mishandling and so on.)
See, I have a brain and I USE it to take in all the information available; then I reach my own conclusions. I do not just parrot what others say as if it were true without some thought. Much like it has been done for Millennia!
So I listen to the radio. I watch the news, but take it with a grain of salt.
I look (and listen) for information from other countries, such as Israel, Russia, Germany, Australia, Canada and England.
Then I look at what is going on in my immediate vicinity.
But this argument talks about a comparison. It compares to stuff from the past, what Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton or Bush (W) did doesn’t matter. What is important is what is happening right now. You are using the past to justify why we should vote a certain way now in order to impact the future.
O.K. Since that is the way we start I will oblige with a response in kind.
I have received seven decent raises since the day Obama became president. By decent I mean better than I ever got while driving for a government agency.
Yet the pay I receive now does not go as far as it did 10 years ago. My raises have been in line with any reasonable expectation for inflation so why the problem?
In that respect, Republicans have tried to do more to ease up on the burden of Businesses and Democrats have pushed more restrictions that tends to shut business (jobs) down.
The real problem here is that EVERY single point that I heard liberals griping about. Everything they said George W Bush did “wrong”, Barack Obama has doubled down on.
The high price of gas, that Obama himself said was a sign of the failure of the Bush presidency, was HALF what it is today. Obama, By his own description, screwed that up.
The patriot act? Yeah NOT ONLY did Barack Obama reinstate it when it was due to expire but he expanded it so the NSA now stores all our communications “Just in case”.
Broken promises… Yeah like “if you want to keep your doctor, you can. If you want to keep your insurance policy you can.” Or how about “the first thing I will do when I take office is I will close Guantanamo Bay [Prison].”
The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? We still have troops over there and when He did start to pull troops out he didn’t first make sure that the infrastructure was there to support the vacuum created by our pullout. Now we have had to go BACK in and all those things my friends fought for were lost.
The liberals claim that they want to help the poor. Well what have they done to help?
ACA??? I am poor by the standards set by the government itself.
I would have to increase my pay by half again what I am currently earning in order to be considered out of poverty.
But the only thing the ACA has done is said I HAVE to buy a product that I couldn’t afford in the first place, it is not cheaper, it is not easier. This does not help. But I am one of the “Poor” they claim to want to help. What they say is the opposite of what they do.
I want to be able to grow and improve myself. But what motivation do I have to do so when I see all these “occupy Wall street” idiots attack “rich people” like the Koch Brothers as if working for your money is somehow evil? So if I improve my lot I will be vilified, if I create a fortune through some wonderful business practice or work ethic they will steal it from me?
(And what is up with that anyway? Why pick on just the rich conservatives? They already do more for charity than do any of the liberal rich. What about the rich people like John Kerry, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Leonardo DiCaprio, George Clooney, even Barack Obama Himself and so on? I mean come on they have one example of conservative rich I have nine liberals)
But to bring it up to the present. Why I cannot support the Democrats is as follows…
1. Gun control. I think everyone should have the right to defend himself or herself against being raped, hurt, robbed or killed out of hand by bad people. I think, if anything, the government should be issuing handguns to everyone free of charge after they prove they took a class or course on how to use them safely. I am tired of a fear-mongering attitude about guns. They are no more dangerous than a power tool or a kitchen knife. If you want to stop people from using guns to cause harm treat the cause… the nutjob who wants to cause harm!
2. Abortion. There is no question in my mind that abortion is murder. Plain and simple. I do not think the government should be condoning, let alone legislating, murder. Worse Obama declared that children were a mistake and a punishment when he said he wanted abortion available because he didn’t “want [his] girls to be punished for making a little mistake”. Well excuse me, MY kids are not a punishment OR a mistake and I do NOT want anyone telling them so because that will hurt them.
3. Freedom. I believe that freedom means I can make my own choices as to how I will live. This includes, but is not limited to, The food I eat, The school/s I or my children attend, what goods and services I will buy or use, Where I will worship, how I will worship, Whether or not I own a gun, what I read, What I say. That means I will have to face the repercussions for the bad choices I make. It also means I will reap the rewards of the good choices. An example of the problem for me? Michelle Obama has made it her mission to tell us all what our kids ought to be eating. It isn’t any of her business it is mine and my wife’s we are their parents. The former mayor of New York, Michael Bloomberg, telling us that we cannot buy sodas over 16 oz.
4. Foreign relations. Our strongest allies are England, Canada, Australia and Israel. We ought to be supporting and backing them as they have done repeatedly for us. Instead we are caught eavesdropping on them and we are giving Palestine and Hamas more credence than we are Israel.
5. Business and taxes. The claim I keep hearing from Democrats, is that we are going to tax the “greedy” businesses to punish them or to make things “fair”. But if the businesses really ARE that greedy all they will do is say one of two things. “We need to add this to our overhead costs and therefore raise our prices.” (which hurts me because I cannot buy as much). Or they will say “We have to cut costs somewhere else.” Which means more layoffs and, even if My job is not one of those cut, there are more people competing for what jobs remain which puts me in jeopardy anyway.
6. Hypocrisy. I keep hearing accusations of conservative hate towards Obama. I have not seen any of that, but I saw nothing but hate directed at George Bush from Democrats. They even accuse me of hating when I point out these issues. This is not hate this is pointing out the problems. But if they were really so worried about the issues and not just hating why do they give Obama a pass where they vilified Bush?
7. Racism. In line with the hypocrisy, I keep seeing and hearing top Democrats (Reid, Pelosi, Obama, Sharpton, Jackson, Wasserman Schultz) saying things that, if I said them, would be derided as the most hateful, racist, rhetoric imaginable. My view on racism is you have to see color and make decisions based on color.
(https://dictionary.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0LEVj3jO1lUiYMAR2pjmolQ;_ylu=X3oDMTBsa3ZzMnBvBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--?p=racism&.sep= , http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism)
The only ones I see really doing that are democrats. “they did this because of race, they are racist.” That statement starts by seeing race in the first place. But even more egregious. They declare white people to be racist because they are white. THAT IS A RACIST STATEMENT! (racism is to judge or have preconceived ideas about a person or people based on their race. Or to treat people differently because of their race. White is a race, to call all whites racist is to judge them based on their race. Therefore it IS racism.
8. Ecological issues/ Global warming/ Climate change. The Democrats keep pushing this as an issue. I am not sure where I stand on the issue. I am not a scientist. However I have noticed that for every one who says it is real there is one who says it is not. Or there is proof that the people who say it is real are making things up.
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/28/weather-channel-founder-global-warming-myth_n_6060734.html)
But for the sake of argument, Let us suppose that it is real. What are the solutions for it? Republicans are trying to develop a positive environment for business so they can come in and find a solution. Democrats are screaming that we must raise the price of gas (which will hurt me because I cannot afford to pay more), Force people to buy electric vehicles (studies, from Britain, now show that before an electric car even hits the dealership it has already put about as much pollution into the air as a regular car having driven 80,000 miles, most of that from the manufacture of the batteries alone,
http://www.productsandpower.org/2012/05/10/second-thoughts-on-electric-vehicles/.)
they are making more ethanol which the United Nations has asked we stop doing because it is not helping and it is consuming food supplies needed for countries like Africa (plus creating Ethanol creates more pollution),
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2014/04/20/its-final-corn-ethanol-is-of-no-use/
then they tell me I am the one who has to pay for all this even though All the advocates of this refuse to do anything themselves to lower their carbon footprint even though mine is already smaller. In other words, again, EVERY solution the Democrats espouse makes the problem worse.
http://jacksonville.com/reason/fact-check/2013-06-02/story/fact-check-al-gores-mansion-lot-less-green-george-bushs-ranch, http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/22/peoples-climate-march-hurt-by-questions-about-carbon-footprint/, http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/09/21/hulk-actor-questioning-gore-dicaprios-carbon-footprint-defies-the-spirit-of-the-climate-march/)
9. War on women/the family. Democrats keep using this hyperbole about some stupid war on women. But everything I see them doing is, at best condescending towards women at worst more vicious then any examples they have of others doing this. And again Hypocrisy enters in, Obama IN THE LAST WEEK, declared that he did not “want Americans to make that choice”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksHIlbIWhgQ
Make the choice about whether they were going to stay home and be a family that is. No the Democrats know best what I and my family ought to have and how we ought to live. My wife, based on that statement, is not smart enough to figure out for herself what she wants out of life she needs Obama to come along and tell her.
I look at the things that I DO know for a fact are going on. Then I look at what different people or groups are saying. Which ever side’s statement matches what I KNOW to be truth, are the ones I will believe.
Naïve? Maybe. Simplistic? I suppose. But that is the way we have to deal with our world.
There is no way to tax our way out of the hole we are in, there is no easy way to fix these problems but we do need to do something. And so far all I have seen or heard from democrats is a bunch of talk that means nothing. And a bunch of actions that have made My life and the lives of many people I know worse.
Is this Anecdotal? Yeah probably, for you anyway. But it is where I am right now. And really when I go to make my choices, that is what I have to use.
In short, As Ronald Reagan said, “are you better off today than you were?” And the answer for me is NO! Emphatically so!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EvFQLhqWPQ
And I do NOT see the Democratic Party doing anything for me, the country, the world or for anyone else.
Below are the original links I posted If they do not work please feel free to copy and paste.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/249516/job-creation-bush-vs-obama-veronique-de-rugy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/president-obamas-job-creation-problem--in-one-chart/2012/08/02/gJQA58tsRX_blog.html
http://mysterypatriot.wordpress.com/2012/10/11/the-facts-obama-vs-reagan-on-job-creation/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/briandomitrovic/2012/10/09/when-it-comes-to-job-creation-obama-doesnt-hold-a-candle-to-reagan/2/
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/61694
http://www.onenewsnow.com/politics-govt/2014/09/12/job-creation-same-as-reagan-not-even-close-says-economist
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